(ed. note: This "ancient archive" talk page (2003 vintage) predated the now common process of adding new comments and responses under sectional topics, in a more or less linear and organized fashion. This discussion was more chronological, with parallel discussions that are a little harder to follow. For convenience, I have attempted to add a sort of table of contents based on the topic up for discussion, but there are still a lot of cross references to previous topics under the latter topics. Apologies in advance if I didn't correctly capture the original "flow") T-dot ( Talk/contribs ) 15:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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