Talk:Surcingle
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I think that this article needs to differentiate rollers and surcingles and be expanded.
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In Australia and the UK a roller is usually identified as having padding to relieve pressure on the spine. Various rollers are used for lunging, vaulting, mouthing, showing and occasionally over rugs, as well as to assist in prevent casting. A surcingle is unpadded and placed over the top of stock, exercise and racing saddles for added safety. It is also always used on pack animals to hold the pack bags and swag in place.
There are quite a few variations in Australian Stock Saddle surcingles ie.: plain, which usually made of leather or plastic PVC coated webbing in a belt style; ring, which has a ring stitched into each end of broad piece of leather and is connected with a narrower strap passing through each ring. This type can be more readily tightened that the former. Other stock patterns use patented buckles and/or red-hide straps that are fastened through the rings. The racing surcingles are made partly or almost fully of elastic, except for the buckle attachments.
Hope that this makes some sense.
Ref: Summerhayes' Encyclopaedia for Horsemen - R.S. Summerhayes
and various saddlery catalogues —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgoodwin (talk • contribs) 05:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, we call a "roller" a surcingle over here! Case in poiint! At least in some places, though I think the term "roller" is used somewhat on the east coast, where the UK influence is stronger. I think we can explain this within this article, no need to create both (in fact, I own a "roller" as part of a bitting rig that I rarely use, one of these days I'd better get out the digital camera and take more pictures of stuff). Except that I don't believe that pack horses in the USA use a surcingle over their loads, the pack saddle is just cinched on and panniers are hung from it, they are tied down, but not in the same manner. Montanabw(talk) 19:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)