User talk:GAYousefSaanei
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to William Wyler, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. You have to provide verifiable and authoritative reference sources that contradict the established historical record of William Wyler's citizenship. Bzuk (talk) 00:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC). Willi's father actually had Swiss citizenship that automatically confirmed Swiss citizenship to his sons, while his Grandfather had American citizenship from 1886 when he had emigrated to Ohio. Willi travelled as a Swiss citizen to the United States, became a member of the US military in 1921, applying for US citizenship at the same time. a process that was deferred until the 1940s, as Wyler thought his military service would proffer US citizenship, but it was not considered in the government's eventual decision. In 1947, Wyler appears as a "US citizen" before the a senate hearing on un-American activities in the film industry. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 00:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC).
- Assuming that is all true (source?), you still haven't shown that he renounced his previous citizenship. GAYousefSaanei (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- See: Herman, Jan. A Talent for Trouble: The Life of Hollywood's Most Acclaimed Director. New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1995. ISBN 0-399-14012-3. Your source again? Bzuk (talk) 00:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC).
- No page number? Please quote the exact passage which states that he renounced his previous citizenship. Thanks. GAYousefSaanei (talk) 00:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- P. 37; once a foreign national applies for US citizenship, until 1988, with the passage of some landmark legislation, American courts would not consider dual citizenship. Once Wyler applied to became an American citizen in 1921, he revoked his Swiss citizenship. The US government would not allow dual citizenship until 1942; previously once US citizenship was requested, any other citizenship had to be rejected. Even today, the U.S. Government does not endorse dual citizenship as a matter of policy, but it recognizes the existence of dual citizenship. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC). In 1942, citizens who took the oath of naturalization had to swear in their American oath of allegiance a promise to renounce all previous citizenships upon assumption of American citizenship. The actual wording is quite specific: "that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen..." FWiW, Wyler made that application in 1921, thinking he needed it to join the New York National Guard on February 7, 1921. Bzuk (talk) 01:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC).
- Very good. I appreciate the effort. Now, kindly insert this quote as a footnote alongside the word "American", and his place of birth alongside the word "American", and I will be eminently satisfied. GAYousefSaanei (talk) 01:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- P. 37; once a foreign national applies for US citizenship, until 1988, with the passage of some landmark legislation, American courts would not consider dual citizenship. Once Wyler applied to became an American citizen in 1921, he revoked his Swiss citizenship. The US government would not allow dual citizenship until 1942; previously once US citizenship was requested, any other citizenship had to be rejected. Even today, the U.S. Government does not endorse dual citizenship as a matter of policy, but it recognizes the existence of dual citizenship. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC). In 1942, citizens who took the oath of naturalization had to swear in their American oath of allegiance a promise to renounce all previous citizenships upon assumption of American citizenship. The actual wording is quite specific: "that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen..." FWiW, Wyler made that application in 1921, thinking he needed it to join the New York National Guard on February 7, 1921. Bzuk (talk) 01:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC).
- No page number? Please quote the exact passage which states that he renounced his previous citizenship. Thanks. GAYousefSaanei (talk) 00:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- See: Herman, Jan. A Talent for Trouble: The Life of Hollywood's Most Acclaimed Director. New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1995. ISBN 0-399-14012-3. Your source again? Bzuk (talk) 00:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC).
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